Wildest anti-Semitism
By glazou on Monday 19 July 2004, 10:32 - General - Permalink
This is so ridiculous. Yeah, I feel the threat every morning when I walk to the bakery. I am scared when I leave my children at school. I even added a trailing N to my name on my appartment's door to look more Alsacian. Come on, give us a break Ariel and mind your own business please.
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I don't feel as well that there is so much danger in France (as a jew).
But the ''mind your own business'' can be as well applied to French people that constantly judge the middle east affairs, without having any idea what's going on there (except the images they see at the TV).
Cheers, Chmouel
This past year I was living in Israel, and over winter break I wanted to go to France with my friends. However my parents wouldn't let me go to France... they said it was "too dangerous" - pretty interesting when you consider that they let me go to Israel for the whole year...
But yeah, from over here it definitely does seem that anti-semitism in France is a big thing these days, that lots of bad things are going on and that it's indeed very dangerous for Jews to be there at this time.
Jason
You are the country has definitively some anti-semitism but since i don't have any anti-semit friend (except discussion about israel) and i don't have a yamulka i don't see the anti-semitism.
Chmouel.
I'd think if your Jewish, your much better off in tolerant Europe, than in Israel.
I'd love to see stats that show your safer in Israel vs. France.
Sharon just wanted some media spotlight. This got him that.
Pis d'abord, est-ce qu'Ariel lave plus blanc ?
Just to give my impressions. Like everyone in France, I hear on TV about the recent increase of anti-semitism acts. I think it is a very sensitive subject in France (since the 1940-44 period), so the media may emphasis a bit on the subject. While an increase is really a bad thing, I suppose (or hope) the absolute number of these acts (done by a tiny minority) remains actually low. It has been said that these acts were mainly caused by what happens in Israel, and that triggers antagonism between communities in suburbs with diverse cultural groups. I saw on a report on TV the efforts of some school teachers to light the mind of their young students, a very good and really needed idea.
I find terrible that it can give the impression that France is an anti-semitic country. I don't feel like it is the case. Please note that I am not jewish so I may not be aware of the (worse) reality.
Bonjour,
Puisque vous abordez ce sujet, puis-je vous demander si vous avez vu le documentaire de Pascal Vasselin « Alya » ?
« to look more Alsacian » Parce que en ajoutant un n ça fait alsacien ?? Où le n ?
N.K.,
I think that by adding a N at the end ("Glazmann"), it would make the name look more German (like someone from Alsace), and less Jewish.
There is nothing to be ashamed of in being Jewish... adding an extra "n" and assimilating, imho, is the worst thing you can do. If you are proud of your heritage and nationality, and other people hate you for it, then screw them.
Oh, and about Sharon wanting "media spotlight" - this point of view that all Jews should move to Israel is nothing new, that has been the Zionist ideal since the beginning - that all Jews will move to Israel and build the Jewish National Home, and pretty much everyone in Israel is very pro-Aliyah (making immigration to Israel). The only Jews who are anti-Aliyah are those who are nice, comfortable and assimilated in their home countries and don't want to leave their nice and easy life for something that is perhaps harder. Oh, and the idea that Jews can only live in a country that is majority Jewish... well it's true! Jews can only live a truly Jewish life in a place where they are not a minority, where they can live by the Jewish calendar, where they can walk to Synagogue without being afraid of being jumped. That's another basic idea of Zionism - that everywhere in the diaspora eventually ends up throwing out the Jews, and we need to build a home for ourselves rather than being kicked out of other peoples' houses. (Not that all non-Jews are anti-semites... but over time history has proven that Jews are not safe anywhere. Just look at Germany! During the 19th century Jews were doing great, had great jobs, assimilated, became part of German society, and look what happened to them?)
Sharon saying that Jews should make Aliyah because it's dangerous in France is just the same as the Israeli Air Force flying 747s into Ethiopia to save Jews who were being massacred during civil war, except that Sharon is only suggesting it instead of flying planes to France and airlifing the Jews to save them from the anti-semites.
I never saw France as anti-semitic... The main problem we have here is that antisemitism, as any insecurity problem, is way too well pointed at in the media, especially the main stream tele channels. Not that it should not be discussed about, but there are other problem that are left in the shadow because they're not "hype" enough.
Moreover, the said medias are really prompt to come to conclusions : I remember that a few months ago, a few people were agressed within the same day, at least one of them being black or arab, and one of them being of jewish origin : it was imediatly publicized as an antisemtic agression, the other victims being instantly forgotten.
I've got friends from all kind of backgrounds, some of them are arabs, some of them are jews, and they really have a fine relationship with each other. That surely does not sell well on TV.
My overall opinion is that the core of the problem in inter-cultural relationships in France come from those who listen to such messages of hate : "If you're arab, everyone is against you", "if you're jewish, everyone hates you". That is just not true, but repetitions of such messages can make it real if we don't take care.
Sharon se comporte exactement comme Bush. Ses succès politiques se construisent sur la peur, l'anxiété, et l'exagération des menaces (existantes ou pas).
En ce sens, ses déclarations seront forcément une réussite.
En tant que juif Français, j'ai vécu la mort de Rabin et l'arrivée de Sharon, partisan plus ou moins avoué du "grand Israël" comme une catastophe pour les juifs du monde entier. Fort heureusement, je ne suis pas le seul, en France, aux Etats-unis et en Israël.
Et puisque Sharon et Bush ne comprennent que le manichéisme, il est important re répéter haut et fort qu'être anti-Bush, c'est encore être pro-américain, qu'être anti-Sharon, c'est encore être pro-Israëlien, mais également car il ne faut pas l'oublier, qu'être anti-Arafat, c'est également être pro-palestinien.
Plus vite ces trois là tomberont, plus vite nous pourrons nous pencher sur le cas Poutine
Elie, Français, juif, heureux en France.
Have fun with this video: yayel.com/lost+found/Satu... about France