Goyim
By glazou on Thursday 20 April 2006, 12:03 - Religion and other obscurantisms - Permalink
This is clearly a post for smontagu : the Genesis 14:1 refers to "Tideal, king of the Goyim" ; and Tideal is apparently without any possible doubt an Hittite name. Were the "goyim" only a tribe or an ethnos, and not globally the non-jews ?
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Reading the blog in Sage, I thought "goyim" was a new Jabber client
In the revised edition of the King James bible, "goyim" is translated everywhere as "nations", except for this lone occurence in Genesis 14:1 where it is left as the proper name "Goiim" that some identify with Gutium in Kurdistan.
From nccicharlotte.com/gentile...
The Jewish Tanak states that Tidal was King of the Gentiles, or Goyim. Furthermore, Goyim in the Tanak is capitalized, which means that it had to be a place, person, or thing. In this case a race of people or sect of the Gentiles.
From bible.ort.org/books/torah...
* Tidal: He can be identified with the Tudghala or Tudhaliya of cuniform texts, who was king of the Northern Kurdish or Hittite nations.
* Goyim: Literally 'nations' or 'hordes' (see Targum). This might indicate that he was the king over a number of nations, or perhaps, a barbaric king. Others, interpret Goyim as a place name (Rashi). It may be identified with Gutium in Kurdistan. See Joshua 12:23.
Plenty more information on
www.bible-history.com/isb...
www.bible-history.com/isb...
There is quite an erudite discussion about Tidal at listhost.uchicago.edu/pip...